defy
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Post by defy on Dec 16, 2012 18:03:06 GMT -5
I think there is a happy medium between say clan like chilled dung/Dung mates and DGS. I think 3bo could be the perfect clan for that medium. If we achieve this standard I think it will make us the most popular dung clan. Before 3bo I joined DGS because I was eager to get better at dung. I liked the floors going on and the feedback, but I hated the attitudes most had in the clan. 3bo is a complete 180 then DGS attitude/community wise.
DGS is a terrible community with uptight assholes. That's one thing about our admins for the most part. Otto, IGS, Travis, Vic in particular when I first started were nothing but nice to me. They invited me into floors and I didn't feel like an outcast when I joined. This is why I like 3bo so much. You guys aren't typical dung assholes who want to make other people look stupid, but actually want improvement instead of just making a mockery of people.
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defy
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Post by defy on Dec 17, 2012 13:32:32 GMT -5
Here's another example that I encountered today on a trial floor.
The person who was being trialed binds were Prom Plate, Primal Legs, Prom 2h, and maybe Bloodneck? His ammo bind was Laws. After the trial I told him he should fix his binds. Such as getting a primal plate and losing the legs/get a primal plate, and get a saggi short/arrows.
He then began making excuses for his binds. Like he hadn't found maul yet. EOC has been out well enough for people to get the proper binds, and to me this is a sign about not caring enough to get proper binds in dg, or it could be he's uneducated since post-eoc.
I think it's a MUST that we change the application, and make it a requirement for all new members to read Travis's guides. I think they should have to have the required Binds/Ring tiers to be allowed in 3bo. If they can't get those things right before even being in the clan, they probably aren't going to help 3bo as a clan.
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Post by TiaMariaa on Dec 17, 2012 16:34:16 GMT -5
#1 Priority is to update our apply form+making it mandatory to apply on off site.Because its holyday and few people are away we should wait awhile ,I don't think s0ld has been on yet either.
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Post by Traaavis on Dec 17, 2012 17:40:08 GMT -5
I agree. I don't think there's one undeniably superior bind setup, but there are some binds that are unacceptable. It's fine if people don't know what's wrong with their binds if they're willing to fix them for us, but if they're too lazy to make a change, that's stupid.
Ring tiers are important too, I almost forget about them. I think out new application should include conformity with an acceptable set of binds (so we have some leeway, but we're not accepting retarded stuff like 10 hex binds lol), and some sort of rules on ring tiers. If they don't meet the guidelines, we can post a link to the guides that offer information on what they need to fix, then we can accept them. In the meantime, we can do the trial if they'd like, but we can't accept them until they prove they have our reqs.
Even though we like to be more relaxed, I believe having reqs isn't going to hurt anything. It establishes a minimum standard which everyone should be having/using/building from already.
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Post by TiaMariaa on Dec 17, 2012 18:48:21 GMT -5
ty trav
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suguru
3bo member
perrier in my bidet
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Post by suguru on Dec 17, 2012 19:38:06 GMT -5
we really do need a more stringent application system, the current one is a bit of a joke(10 words typed in the entire application). Having a filter before the trial is a necessity.
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Post by Farotto on Dec 18, 2012 8:08:38 GMT -5
Things to do
update the app form / add more questions , links to guides , looking for proper binds ( doesn't have to be exactly what was in the guide but we must have a standard ) making this required.
promoting forums with this and events sub forum.
If any change to the rank system we should require an apply to carrier/keyer before maven.
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Post by TiaMariaa on Dec 18, 2012 12:01:32 GMT -5
When ppl apply for dip, could the mentors that's avail respond to the apply and tell them to get in touch with you,the list was meant to secure, but lets try to respond separately and see if that works better?
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Post by Farotto on Dec 18, 2012 12:11:19 GMT -5
We could have better connection between mentors and people who sign up yes
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suguru
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Post by suguru on Dec 18, 2012 12:44:48 GMT -5
well we really need to make the transition more fluid, and to incorporate dip better. scheduling would do so, but it could also cause conflict if mentors aren't available. talent searching is an option. also the idea of new forums has been tossed around and I'm totally for it. if we had professional or at least aesthetically pleasing forums we'd probably have more active members on it
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Post by TiaMariaa on Dec 18, 2012 13:40:14 GMT -5
Argree but tranfsering to 1 more forums might set us back,I belive tho mebers will come when we are more organize.3bo been set back due to 4 forums tranfers.But we should deff take a stand to that futher down the line.
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Post by Farotto on Dec 18, 2012 14:15:14 GMT -5
Everyone would have to make new accounts etc and our current url is most known for ppl applying atm but we will look into a new forum.
Also ppl should post apply form suggestions here
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Post by Traaavis on Dec 18, 2012 18:56:35 GMT -5
Thinking something like this should be added to the 3bo info/reqs thread: In order to maintain our high degree of excellence, we only allow people with Dungeoneering levels of 105 or higher! Don't fret, however, because for those eager to improve their skills, we offer an alternative set of requirements -- 100+ Dungeoneering, a positive attitude, and a willingness to learn! (You can find information about this alternative program here).
Additionally, with the recent advent of 10 binds and the EoC, it is important for overall success to use the proper binds. While there isn’t one perfect bind setup for all types of floors, there are groups of correct and incorrect binds that we will look for in your application. Be sure to read through our EoC Binds Guide (located here). If you’re missing something important and need help getting it, we will help you find the right binds!
I also added in links to the Accepted template so it looks something like this: Hello, you have been accepted into 3bo! Join the clan chat for a trial! The trial is a mandatory step you must take before joining 3bo. If you're an inexperienced Dungeoneer, don't worry, your ability to dung isn't a deciding factor on whether or not to let you in the clan. We just want you to have fun and this is sort of an initiation into the clan so that you can meet some of its members. You might also want to check out the Dungeoneering Improvement Program. It can be found here. The Dungeoneering Improvement Program is not just for inexperienced Dungeoneers and we highly recommend that all players participate. Please also take a look at our various guides located here, covering topics like Action Bar setups, EoC Ability explanation, Map Prediction, and more! If you have any questions or concerns, feel free to contact an admin. Congratulations and we hope you enjoy your future in 3bo.
For people whose application is accepted, but they don't have the right binds, maybe something like this: Hello, your application has been accepted! However, before you can take the final step of becoming a full-blown member, you’ll need to fix your binds. Detailed information can be found here, and if you have any questions, feel free to contact any admins! In the meantime, you are more than welcome to join the clan chat for your trial, but be aware you will only be invited upon proof of fixed binds. The trial is a mandatory step you must take before joining 3bo. If you're an inexperienced Dungeoneer, don't worry, your ability to dung isn't a deciding factor on whether or not to let you in the clan. We just want you to have fun and this is sort of an initiation into the clan so that you can meet some of its members. You might also want to check out the Dungeoneering Improvement Program. It can be found here. The Dungeoneering Improvement Program is not just for inexperienced Dungeoneers and we highly recommend that all players participate. Please also take a look at our various guides located here, covering topics like Action Bar setups, EoC Ability explanation, Map Prediction, and more! Congratulations and we hope you enjoy your future in 3bo.
For people whose applications lack thought and effort, you can personally state what they need to fix or expand upon before they're accepted (and they shouldn't edit their first post, but rather post a supplementary comment so we can all see what they've changed). If they don't fix it enough, I guess we can have them reapply in one week? What do you think? Also I'm working on an updated application template but I've been busy at work and am already late oops.
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Post by TiaMariaa on Jan 7, 2013 6:26:21 GMT -5
^ gj
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Post by TiaMariaa on Jan 7, 2013 6:28:15 GMT -5
It's Not Too Late It's Never Too Lateeee
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